Already some time ago that a denunciation was published in Internet, against the Dra. Asher, on the part of a member of the society that she created, AMRA, which was for many years contributing money, and did not receive nor even one photo or video of the supposed ruins, or of the supposed finds of atlanteans artefacts, ever, that she was affirming that he had found in the 80’s. The only thing that this person was receiving were discounts to buy the fantastic and esoteric novels of the Dra. Asher, and in one of these novels a few photos, with very bad quality, that only were allowing to see a few possible fences, very small and to very little depth, and some ceramics, which without any doubt are Phoenician.

The theory of the Dra. Asher is almost identical those that it has already defended other previous, Spanish, German, and English authors, and nobody has said that should be plagiarism. Nevertheless, the general theory of Georgeos Díaz-Montexano, is quite original and different, in many aspects, and it has presented the biggest heap of the unique and original evidences, inside the theories that Atlantis identifies with some place near to Gibraltar, between the coasts of Iberia and Morocco. All this is known by any person who has continued his trajectory for many years, and who has been to so much of his advances in the investigation.

By chance (from what I have seen) another such a John is a personage who publishes, for almost the whole Internet network (in any place that he finds news or articles about Georgeos Dïaz-Montexano), very similar messages, trying always to discredit the investigator Díaz-Montexano, with all the classes of calumnies, defamations, and attacks ‘ ad hominem ‘, but never with real scientific arguments. Such a personage, who signs as John, never attacks the arguments of Díaz-Montexano with other arguments. This personage only attacks the person of the investigator, but it never tries to refute the arguments with other arguments. Without doubts, it looks like a personal matter, more than scientist…

Russel

The Atlantis Archives is all for a healthy discussion and a variety of opinion. As we are all aware, there are probably as many theories as there are books that have been written on the subject of Atlantis… okay perhaps that is a ’slight’ over exageration… but please let’s refrain from any personal attacks and keep the site friendly. Afterall, we all share the same interest!

Offered my apologies for not responding sooner. The reason was the huge job since I am engaged in the final stages of editing my book about the Plato’s Atlantis, and the historical palaeographical and archaeological sources.

You have chosen to call into question my credibility, denying that there are no sources before you who have tried the same idea and hypothesis of association between the Persian Empire and the history of Atlantis. As explained, there are earlier sources, and on this occasion, I give only a few references and a few pieces, among the best known of the “true atlantologists”, and true scholars and researchers of Plato’s Atlantis, and the texts of Plato.

I hope that in the same way as you, so hurry decided questioning my credibility, now offer a sincere apology.

Kind regards,
Georgeos Díaz-Montexano
http://www.GeorgeosDiazMontexano.com

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1 Procli commentarius in Platonis Timaeum graece By Proclus, Carl Ernest Christoph Schneider, 1847, Page 122

“Since, however, the Persian expedition came from the east against the Greeks, and particularly against the Athenians, Plato introduces the Atlantic war from the West…”

2 Plato, The Dialogues of Plato, vol. 3 (The Republic, Timaeus, Critias) >
INTRODUCTION AND ANALYSIS.

“Could any war between Athens and the Island of Atlantis have really coincided with the struggle between the Greeks and Persians, as is sufficiently hinted though not expressly stated in the narrative of Plato?…”

“This mythical tale, of which the subject was a history of the wars of the Athenians against the island of Atlantis, is supposed to be founded upon an unfinished poem of Solon, to which it would have stood in the same relation as the writings of the logographers to the poems of Homer. It would have told of a struggle for Liberty (cp. Tim. 25 C), intended to represent the conflict of Persia and ellas….”

“This mythical conflict is prophetic or symbolical of the struggle of Athens and Persia, perhaps in some degree also of the wars of the Greeks and Carthaginians, in the same way that the Persian is prefigured by the Trojan war to the mind of Herodotus, or as the narrative of the first part of the Aeneid is intended by Virgil to foreshadow the wars of Carthage and Rome…”

“In contrasting the small Greek city numbering about twenty thousand inhabitants with the barbaric greatness of the island of Atlantis, Plato probably intended to show that a state, such as the ideal Athens, was invincible, though matched against any number of opponents (cp. Rep. iv. 423 B). Even in a great empire there might be a degree of virtue and justice, such as the Greeks believed to have existed under the sway of the first Persian kings. But all such empires were liable to degenerate, and soon incurred the anger of the gods. Their Oriental wealth, and splendour of gold and silver, and variety of colours, seemed also to be at variance with the simplicity of Greek notions. In the island of Atlantis, Plato is describing a sort of Babylonian or Egyptian city, to which he opposes the frugal life of the true Hellenic citizen….”

3 Laws – Plato. Translated by Benjamin Jowett, 1871. (Preamble)

“Because there was a Persian empire, which had a similar hostility; and not only the fable of the island of Atlantis, but the Trojan war, in Plato’s mind derived some features from the Persian struggle…”

4 Science-fiction, the early years: a full description of more than 3,000 … Everett Franklin Bleiler, Richard Bleiler, 1990; Page 598

“Much the strongest interpretation is the traditional one that Atlantis was a literary myth created by Plato, with an element of allegory on the Persian wars…”

5 Plato: political philosophy. Malcolm Schofield, 2006; Page 209

“What Plato is giving us in Critias’ narrative is a multidimensional historical allegory. Perhaps at a first reading one is put in mind of the heroic Athenian victories over the Persian empire…”

6 The dance of the islands: insularity, networks, the Athenian empire, and the … Christy Constantakopoulou, 2007; Page 168

“Vida-Naquet argued that the structural oppositions between the Peloponesian wars. The description of Atlantis, in particular, shared characteristics with the Athenian conception of the Persian empire in the period of the Persian wars…”

7 Plato 3 the Dialogues Second and Third Periods. Paul Friedländer, Hans Meyerhoff, 1958; Page 384

“Plato conceived the myth of Atlantis and the invasion of the Atlantides after the model of the Persian Wars…”

8 The Secret of Plato’s Atlantis. John Francis Arundell Arundell of Wardour; 1885,Page 76

“the Persian War, it must have been imported by Plato…”

9 Platonic studies of Greek philosophy: form, arts, gadgets, and hemlock. Robert Sherrick Brumbaugh, 1989; Page 117

“The complex conscript army of Atlantis, with its multiple specialized units, is an obvious echo of the Persians army, as its defeat was no doubt inspired by the Persian War…”

10 Plato. Eric Voegelin, 2000; Page 205

“In the Critias, with its story of a war between Athens and Atlantis, we are in the realm of history. The memory of the Persian War furnishes the background for an Athens tha remains victorious against…”

11 Plato on democracy. Thanassis Samaras, 2002; Page 206

“In Timaeus 20e, Plato refers to Athens’ ‘notable achievements … to the Athens of the Persian Wars and the preceding years, Atlantis to the democratic city … Atlantis is, like Persia, a barbaric country. From this point of view, the war between Athens and Atlantis becomes the mythical counterpart to the Persian Wars…”

12 Atlantis, fact or fiction? Edwin S. Ramage, J. Rufus Fears, 1978; Page 97

“Perhaps Plato was thinking of the Persian empire…”

13 The Greek world, 479-323 B.C… Simon Hornblower, 1999; Page 66

“Some Greeks admired Persian methods; even Plato, who thought that Persians suffered, as from a disease, from an excess of tyranny which made them congenitally weak. could call their empire a ’solidly system’ (Laws 685 where the reference is to Persia. Note also the intriguing possibility that the mighty empire Atlantis, depicted in Plato’s Timaeus, stands for Persia)…”

14 Apeiron: A Journal for Ancient Philosophy and Science. Monash University. Dept. of Classical Studies, 1980; Page 123

“Atlantis was also a great power, the description of whose greatness… There can be little doubt that Plato had the Persian War in mind when he wrote this passage…”

15 The deep well. Carl Nylander, 1969; Page 167

“That the sunken kingdom (Atlantis) might well be seen in combination with the Persian Empire has already been indicated. But in addition the architecture of Atlantis…”

16 The Journal of the Society for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities. Society for the Study of Egyptian Antiquities. Sep 10, 2008; Page 27

“The grandiose side of Atlantis shows the impress of the Persian Empire…”

17 Statesman. Plato, Joseph Bright Skemp, 1952; Page 85

“The Atlantis story in the Timaeus and Critias may be largely Plato’s own imaginative fiction designed to show the victory of a ‘nobler Athens’ (of the past!) over a greater than Persian empire…”

And also in:

18 Cultural responses to the Persian wars: antiquity to the third millennium. Emma Bridges, Edith Hall, Peter John Rhodes, 2007, Page 100

19 The myths of Plato. John Alexander Stewart, 1905, Page 454

20 Plato: a critical biography. Jenő Platthy, 1990; Page 214

21 On the interpretation of Plato’s Timaeus: critical studies. John Cook Wilson, 1889; Page 120

22 Persian Fire: The First World Empire and the Battle for the West. Tom Holland, 2007; Page 107

23 Ancient ruins and archaeology. Lyon Sprague De Camp, Catherine Crook De Camp, 1964; Page 19

24 Ancient astronauts, cosmic collisions, and other popular theories about man … William H. Stiebing, 1984; Page 56

25 The city of the gods: a study in myth & mortality. John S. Dunne, 1965; Page 157

26 Character, plot and thought in Plato’s Timaeus-Critias. Warman Welliver, 1977; Page 41

27 Legendary islands of the Atlantic: a study in medieval geography. William Henry Babcock, American Geographical Society